Tuesday, December 27, 2011

Thoughts on Henry Bishop

Once of the plot developments that really divided fans during season 3 was the introduction of Peter's and AltOlivia's son, Henry Bishop.  I think fans were upset about this since, firstly, the boy wasn't Olivia's son and secondly, because it pushed a bit too far the already (in my opinion) excessive angst that characterized the middle portion of season 3.  Since the alternative universe didn't have a Peter, Henry was essentially used as a means of activating the machine on the other side.  When Peter was erased in the Season 3 finale, Henry was erased as well since without Peter, Henry would have never been born.  I wanted to talk about Henry Bishop because I really hope that they bring him back into the story since I think he would provide some really amazing character development for all our characters.

The main reason why I think that he will return is because of the drawing that we saw on the refrigerator door in the season 3 finale.  Peter and Olivia were drawn with a young child between the two of them.  The child was holding Peter's hand, but not Olivia's hand.  This is consistent with the fact that Henry is closer to Peter than Olivia.  Also, there remains the lingering question of why exactly Peter and Olivia are so opposed to having children and the show certainly goes out of its way to show how good they both are with children.

I would like to explain what kind of character development he could provide our leads with:

1. Peter Bishop: I think that Peter will be the most effected by this since, having had an inadequate father, he would be determined to be a good father to Henry.  As nurturing as he is with Walter, I think that he would realize that taking care of a child is very different and much more challenging.  I think being a father himself would allow him to empathize with Walter much more and who knows, if he were to momentarily be confronted with the threat of losing his son, would he crumb to pieces just like Walter does?  Part of overcoming a childhood trauma is growing up into a good adult who is able to take care of children in a better way instead of repeating the mistakes that their parents made.  Thus, having a child of his own would provide Peter with some sense of closure in regards to his childhood.

2. Olivia Dunham: Since Henry would not be hers, she would have to go through the same process as Walter which would involve learning to love a child that is not your own.  I think that Olivia, far more than Peter, would feel inadequate when it comes to parenting a child, but she would feel an overwhelming draw towards the boy since she has always viewed herself as being a protector and as someone who loves to take care of people.  Anna Torv in an interview has stated that Alt-Olivia would be able to make the distinction between being a mom and being a FBI agent- between work and home life.  Having a child would mean so much more to Olivia and I think making the distinction would be much harder for her.  If she were to get attached to Henry, I think that she would be one of those parents that would be constantly worrying about their child.  Like Peter, having a child would provide her with some closure and insight into her own childhood.

3. Walter Bishop: I think that Henry would provide Walter with a second chance at being a good parent for a younger child, a chance to redeem himself and to make better choices with the second generation.  His relationship with Peter would be taken to a whole new level since they would both be fathers and would be able to relate to each other more.

Since so much of the internal conflict with our characters is rooted in childhood experiences, bringing a child into the mix would serve as a way for all characters to achieve some closure.

I would love to hear your thoughts on this!

Saturday, December 24, 2011

Great Websites that Every FRINGE Fan should Bookmark

1. Fringe Bloggers:  This website provides excellent insight into each episode in its reviews and also posts Fringe news. 

2. Fringe Television: This website provides comprehensive reviews, news and podcasts.  Excellent.

3. Mark Watches Fringe: Provides really wonderful reviews from a die hard fan.

4. Cortexiphan: A wonderful website that provides reviews and news

5. Peter and Olivia Website: Great resource for Peter/Olivia Fans. 

6. Fringepedia: An Encyclopedia of sorts that is insanely comprehensive.  Provides episode reviews directory, episode transcripts, and character/actor bios.  

If you know any other websites that I didn't mention here, feel free to let me know!

Friday, December 23, 2011

FRINGE: What's coming up in 2012

SPOILERS AHEAD- DON’T READ IF YOU DON’T WANT TO BE SPOILED!

ON THE NEW DIMENSIONS INTRODUCED THIS SEASON:

JP: “We’re having a lot of fun with the way this season has become a love letter to itself. It is, as we said, the same show, just slightly different. It was really fun for us and the actors, though maybe frustrating for the audience to explore these slightly different variations of the character’s in Peter’s absence. When Peter came back it threw all of that into really stark relief. He’s very much a memory of the audience, as we imagined he would be.”

ON THE DECISION TO BRING PETER BACK AT THE END OF SUBJECT 9:

JP: “We didn’t want to push our audience’s tolerance for frustration too far [laughs].”

JW: “It did take a lot of thought, Peter’s such a part of the show’s DNA. Every single frame of the show, one can argue, has to do with Peter Bishop being kidnapped. He was always there to us, but not physically there. What we wanted to do is have the commitment to take him off for four episodes, to make it a metaphor for the impact it would have on people’s lives. It lets the audience settle into that and then bring him back, which becomes a totally different sport.”

REGARDING THE LAST THREE YEARS OF FRINGE:

JW: “It really did happen, and that’s why we felt that when Peter comes back it’s going to be around Episode 4, because that’s enough time to let people get the point and now they can experience this new world as they would in Peter’s POV.”

THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING PETER REMEMBER THE LAST THREE YEARS:

JW: “That was really important for us, for our fans. This year we have a secret-less Peter, where years before you had secrets with Walter or the Observers, but this year it’s you and Peter.”

PETER’S QUEST TO GET BACK HOME:

JP: “We love the idea that for a while he wanted to get off the Island and now all he wants to do is get back.”

JW: “We went through a couple of seasons of Walter wanting Peter to call him Dad and now Peter is in a position where Peter wants Walter to call him Son.”

JP: “We don’t put a value judgement on it, of [where his rightful home is]. From Peter’s point of view, all the people he connected with, or was connected to, are somewhere else and he wants to get back to them. But we start to see the push and pull of these people who are just like him and are in a real dilemma. What kind of hero would just choose to leave them behind?”

ON THE MACHINE AND IF IT WILL HELP PETER GET HOME:

JW: “I think we have a couple of really good twists, but don’t forget that the Machine is very powerful and since it’s the Machine that basically fixed everything, it can also undo everything. Peter will focus on it and it will sort of be his spaceship back to where he belongs.”

ON SEPTEMBER’S DECISION TO NOT ERASE PETER FROM EXISTENCE:

JP: “In the spirit of consequence of his choice to let events play out as they have, so far they have yet to be paid. What’s going to happen is going to be interesting as the season unfolds.”

JW: “The Observers are such a huge question in the mythology, in terms of what they’re serving and what they are. We want to give insights this year and we will have elements of that. It’s our intention to provide more clarity for people.”

ON THE RETURN OF DAVID ROBERT JONES:

JW: “We found his character so delicious and Jared is the kind of actor who’s capable of so much, so we really thought there was so much more story to tell with him; to really understand the machinations of him as a human-being, and to learn his true motivations, and to delve into that. We’re pleasantly surprised at how easy it was to find something sensational for him to do. We always felt he was something special that we wanted to highlight again.”

ON HOW DAVID ROBERT JONES TIES IN WITH THE CENTRAL CONFLICT:

JP: “We know that Nina is up to no good, as is David Robert Jones. Our characters are facing some big foes, which they don’t know by this point. The audience knows. The thematics to explore are very much about what is home and what is your effect on it. How much of our lives are predetermined and how much is really within our control. What we love about this show is that, in many ways, it’s just a family drama about these characters who have found each other and are fighting to protect their little world as much as the world at large. They are up against some fairly powerful foes right now across the universes

THE RATINGS:

W: “We’ve said before that FOX has been very open and transparent with their plans for us. They’ve been really cool. We’re doing the best we can and hopefully they’ll see us as an asset. We were told that a 1.2 rating on Friday night’s is what they needed and that’s where we are. But at the same time nothing lasts forever so we don’t know.

ON WHETHER FOX WILL GIVE THEM ENOUGH TIME TO WRAP UP THE SHOW IF CANCELLATION DOES HAPPEN:

P: “We certainly hope so, but we have had no conversations with either the studio (Warner Bros.) or the network about that, so we’re imagining things that have not come to fruition. But having said that, we certainly owe a debt to the story, the characters, the fans and ourselves, that whenever the end comes that we wrap it up in a satisfying way.”

SOURCE: THE INTERVIEW WAS DONE BY SFX AND THE TRANSCRIPT CAN BE FOUND AT FRINGE BLOGGERS OR SERIABLE. FRINGE LATINO WAS THE FIRST TO BRING UP THIS INTERVIEW.

Thursday, December 22, 2011

Questions That I Hope the Rest of Season 4 Will Answer

The first seven episodes of this season have given us many questions to ponder over the course of the hiatus.  I would like to use this post to list some questions that have been raised that I hope will be answered during the remainder of season 4.

1. Why didn't September erase Peter from existence?  Were his reasons emotional or was it because Peter has an even larger purpose that he has yet to fulfill? 

2. Why were Olivia and Walter seeing Peter during the first few episodes when Peter was never trying to connect with them to begin with (at least maybe consciously)?  What is the content of the dreams that Olivia was having and why was she having such dreams almost EVERY NIGHT?

3. Why was Olivia experiencing time slips during episode 4 and at the end of episode 5?  I can understand that in episode 4, she might have been slipping due to Peter's presence trying to break through, but what accounts for the time slip in episode 5?  If Raymond's device started working at the end of episode 4 (when Peter returned) and hence, occasionally moved time back by 4 years for everyone, why was Olivia (and Peter too) only slipping by mere seconds or minutes?

4. HOW did Peter re-emerge from non-existence?  Based on what we've seen from episode 5, he's just as confused about his presence as everyone else is.  Did he unconsciously will himself into existence or did Walter and/or Olivia have a hand in that?

5. Where was Peter during the first 4 episodes and how does he feel about being a stranger in a strange land?

6. Why didn't time reset itself when Peter returned?  I know that when Peter returned, time weakened a bit so that Raymond's device could work, but beyond that, what other affects were there?

7. What is the story behind Peter's time jumps that were shown in Episode 6?  Were they really the result of Raymond's machine or are they the result of something else going on?  Will we see him jump again?

8. Peter had a ring on at the crime scene in episode 6.  What does it mean, if anything?

9. What is the story behind Nina dosing Olivia with Cortexiphan?  Is the drug responsible for the headaches that she has been having?

10. How will Peter get home?

11. When Peter visits the other side, how will Walternate react to Peter?  Will he have a hidden agenda when it comes to Peter, just like he did in the season 2 finale?

12. What role will the Shapeshifters and David Robert Jones play this season?  How will this plot line tie together with Peter's journey home?

13. When will Lincoln experience a sudden death and leave Peter and Olivia alone?  :)

Wednesday, December 21, 2011

Evaluating Season 4 So Far- Feedback

I received the following lovely comment.  My responses are below:

This was very enjoyable, thank you! My take, if summarized and not as well written, is like this:

1. Establishing the General Direction of Season 4 - C

Repetitive, confusing, slow, unexciting. They dragged out Peter's reappearance for no reason at all, and no, bringing him back sooner wouldn't have diminished Peter's sacrifice, because we all knew he'd come back, the real deal, what makes his sacrifice notable is not how many weeks he's been absent, but that after he came back, he's still existent for all they care. That should have been the source of conflict from the end of the second episode onward. Instead we had awful meandering allegories that ended up having no meaning. I don't know what the purpose of these seven episodes were, since they haven't established any significant differences and I don't know where the show is going.

I think that the writer's intention of having Peter absent from the first four episodes was so that we could see the changes in these characters as a result of Peter's absence from their lives.  Consequently, we could better appreciate the obstacles that Peter has to overcome and come face to face with upon his return.  The writers succeeded in doing this to some extent for Walter since we see how unhinged he is.  For Olivia, we haven't seen many differences and the only difference that we saw came at the last second of the fall finale where we found out that Nina was dosing her with cortexiphan- it was too little too late.  I think that it might have been better if, like you said, they showed all this in the first episode and then brought Peter back at the end of the first episode.  But, then the viewers might complain that things were too rushed.  I'm unsure about how other approaches might have succeeded, but it's clear that the current approach hasn't succeeded very much.  

2. Character Development - C

Inconsistent characterization for Walter and Olivia.

Walter has displayed several behaviors depending on what was needed for the plot, which were inconsistent with what was presented in in the season premiere. He behaved like S1 Walter in episode 4.07, he behaved like S2 Walter in episode 4.03.

I agree with you to some extent regarding Walter, but I also feel like his characterization in each episode has been logical and consistent, given the situations that the character finds himself in each episode. He appears somewhat calm in episode 1, but as the hallucinations became more prominent, he becomes more unhinged and starts panicking about being sent back to St. Claire's (this was never an issue in the old timeline since he knew that Peter would never send him back).  He is at his weakest in episode 3 when he interacts with Aaron who reminds him so much of his own son.  The pain at seeing his son again as an adult is what explains his actions towards Peter in episodes 5-7.  Although his response to Peter is unjustifiably child-like, irrational and down right mean, we have seen in the past that Walter can be that way sometimes.   Nevertheless, I agree with you that his characterization is imperfect.  

Olivia is supposed to be this emotionless, colder version of the original, but depending on the episode, she's been warmer, more caring (particularly with Lincoln) and she's much more open. See how quickly she has fallen in love with Lincoln.

I 100% agree with you on this point.  They claim that there are differences, but I honestly don't see them.  Even Joshua Jackson has expressed his opinion that the Olivia in this timeline "seems" (and he emphasized the "seems") to actually be better off compared to the Olivia that we used to know.  I feel like the ending scene in episode 7 was the tip of the iceberg regarding what is going on with Olivia.  I hope I'm right.  And don't even get me started on her relationship with Lincoln... it took Peter 3 years to connect to Olivia and Lincoln does it in a matter of seven episodes??

Peter has only been in one episode and a half. The 5 minutes he was in Wallflower hardly count. His characterization is consistent with what the writers have always been doing, give him one episode and forget him as quickly as they can.

Peter has never really been fully developed and I feel like episodes 5 and 6 started to give us a sense of what was going on with him emotionally.  He's such a tightly wounded up person that I expect it will take a lot to get him to the point were he FINALLY breaks.  I still have faith that the writers will not disappoint us.  

3. Cases of the Week - B-

Other than the professor in 4.02 and the married couple in 4.06, the rest have been mediocre. They are trying too hard to draw parallels, that not only lack subtlety, but that usually are meaningless. I could tell you examples, but it would make this post too long.

I agree that the parallels can sometimes be a bit too obvious, but I definitely stand by my opinion that they are always meaningful even if they are repetitive.  

4. Exploring the Mythology of the Show - B-

The central subject of the mythology, Peter, has been tangentially explored in one episode. Very little and hardly satisfying. The other part of the mythology introduced this season, the shapeshifters 2.0, though repetitive, has been slightly better handled, but then they had 2 episodes to go from experimental phase to fully formed enemies.

I was seriously considering giving this section a C since I agree with you, not enough time has been spent on the central subject of the mythology- Peter.  Unless the shapeshifters have something to do with Peter, I am actually not really interested in them. 

5. Peter/Olivia Moments - B-

I don't really know what to say about them. The only significant moment was when they established that a) Peter thinks his Olivia is elsewhere waiting for him and b) Olivia's feelings for him are complete indifference and lack of curiosity, which makes the stuff about the hole in her life and the dreams completely meaningless, but whatever, the original Olivia wasn't that much into Peter anyway. It makes sense that she didn't feel anything for him in her dreams and that he had no impact whatsoever.

I stand by what I said in this section in my original post.  I honestly think that Olivia is lying about her indifference towards Peter because if she's not, then you're right, the stuff about the hole in her life and the dreams will be completely meaningless, a waste of time and a missed opportunity for some truly wonderful character development.  It is my personal opinion that the writers can sometimes identify a smart story line when they see one. 

6. Peter/Walter Moments - C

The C goes for Walter. They tried to parallel the scene, where Peter rejected Walter in S2 and ran away, but here is my problem, that moment in S2 was earned. It came from an established relationship based on love and deception. Walter earned the "dad" moment and Peter had every right to feel hurt, when he learned the truth. I felt for him and for Walter. This time the writers tried to tell me this was the same situation reversed. Wrong! This Walter used "my son" to achieve major impact and hurt Peter, as much as he could. His "my son" wasn't based on a relationship, his rejection had its roots on selfishness and although his fear was understandable, what he did to Peter was cheap and vile.

The following episode Walter went as far as wanting Peter dead and in Wallflower he didn't even enter his mind.

You bring up some really good points.  I feel that it was wrong of Walter to reject adult Peter so quickly without thinking about how Peter feels.  His treatment of Peter, although understandble, is not justified.  They have a long way to go before their relationship develops into what it used to be.  But, thank goodness, we have Peter who tends to be more forgiving than he should be.  

7. Introduction of Lincoln Lee - D

The reason he was brought on board, to represent the new viewer, was a huge mistake, as the ratings showed. That was a bad move, because clearly, any new viewers would have caught up with a well established show with a more or less complicated mythology, but let's say there were new viewers, who didn't know anything about the show... What was episode 4.01 about? Shapeshifters, Walter having visions and freaking out, characters talking nonsense, a truce between parallel universes, doppelgangers... too complicated for a new viewer. Instead, it only managed to frustrate loyal viewers, who expected more from the premiere and who had to conform with a lame excuse about it being an introductory episode for new viewers. The result is that Fringe didn't gain new viewers and it failed to satisfy the fans. Lincoln himself is an extremely bland character, whose only remarkable characteristic is his glasses. They put him front and center, they gave him far too much screentime, importance and character development, beyond what they've given veteran characters like Astrid, not to mention Peter. But then he is Peter's replacement after all. I find this beyond offensive.

Agreed!

I agree with the rest of your points, but my favorite moment is the first meeting between Peter and Walter.

I loved that moment too!  :) 

I also received another comment from someone else:

I'm sorry but do you even appreciate Josh's acting on this show? It's always John and Anna and I am sick of it.

Where do I even begin to start explaining my love for Joshua Jackson?  I've loved him since Dawson's Creek and I think that he is an amazing actor!  If you read my reviews, you will see that I focus quite heavily on Peter.  This is because Peter is my favorite character which is due to the fact that Joshua Jackson plays him very well.   I feel like he is under-utilized in Fringe and in the rare moments where he is given the opportunity to shine, he excels greatly!  However, the fact that Josh tends to be under-appreciated in the media doesn't mean that we need to take our anger out on John and Anna.  They are amazing actors and deserve the praise that they get.  When Josh does get his moment in the spotlight, no one will sing his praises louder than me!  :)

Thanks for all the comments!  Keep reading and commenting!  :)

Monday, December 19, 2011

Evaluating Season 4 So Far

There are a lot of aspects of this season so far that have both delighted me and frustrated me.  I thought that I would take some time to grade various aspects of season 4 and to give you my thoughts on why I gave it the grade that I did.  I'll try not to compare this season to past seasons too much since my memory of past episodes is a bit foggy, but there will occasionally be comparisons with season 3 since the "Olivia arc" is similar in concept to the "Peter arc" of this season.  I would absolutely love to hear your thoughts on each point and the grades that you would give!

1. Establishing the General Direction of Season 4  B-

There are a couple of points that were highlighted in the first seven episodes that I deem as being important to the rest of the season.

a) The introduction of the Shapeshifters (4.01 and 4.05)
b) The fact that Walter and Olivia had visions of Peter that Peter didn't know about (4.06)
c) Peter feels like he needs to get back to his own timeline (4.06)
d) Peter will use the machine to go back to his own timeline (4.07)
e) Olivia is being dosed with Cortexiphan by Nina (4.07)
f) Walter is struggling with the reappearance of his son (4.05-4.07)

So we have four plot points going on: Peter's journey home, Walter's difficulty in dealing with Peter, the shapeshifters, and Olivia's abuse at the hands of Nina.  Although I know how the first two tie together, after seven episodes, I have absolutely no idea how everything else is going to tie together.  Consequently, the season feels very disjointed and the actions seems to be going almost too slow.  All the action happened in the last three episodes and I can't help but feel like the first four episodes were just filter.  They provided some great character development, but I feel like they provided character development that we've seen before (Olivia's coldness and her feelings towards being a test subject as a child; Walter's attachment to Peter and guilt over what he did).  The only thing that saved these early episodes were the cases of the week which were extremely interesting and illuminated the plight of our central characters. 

In Season 3, the first 7 episodes provided a complete arch, from beginning to end, an arch that feed steamlessly into the next story arch that started with Marionette.  We had a clear beginning, middle, and end; outstanding acting (god bless Anna Torv!); and a clear idea of where things were heading.  When you look at the first seven episodes of season 3 compared to the first seven episodes of season 4, season 4 comes up a bit short.  I think it is largely due to the constraints that are imposed by the story line.  In order for the viewers to truly feel the weight of what happened in the season 3 finale, we needed to get a sense of what the world would be like without Peter so that when he did return, we would appreciate him all the more.  Having Peter return in the first episode would have cheapened his actions in the finale.  I appreciate the writers for doing this.  By episode 7 in season 3, the actions of the season 2 finale (the switching of the Olivias) had been resolved and the plot was getting ready to move forward.  In season 4, Peter hasn't really made any progress towards getting home and it may be because his dilemma is just a lot less straight forward than Olivia's was.  Although it was very difficult for her, Olivia knew what she ultimately needed to do to get home (cross over using Cortexiphan) whereas Peter doesn't have a clue since he's never been in this situation before and he doesn't even know if there's a home for him to go back to.

Conclusion: The first seven episodes of season 4 seem repetitive, disjointed and slow in pacing.  They leave you with very little of an idea for how the rest of the season will unfold, raising a lot of questions, but very few (if any) answers.

2. Character Development B-

It was an absolute joy to watch Olivia and Walter be developed more fully, even though we've seen such developments before.  Anna Torv and John Noble are both excellent actors and episode 2 and 3 in this season have really allowed them both to shine wonderfully.  Anna Torv is always fantastic at playing Olivia as a person who seemingly is fine on the surface, but who deep down, is insecure, incomplete and very unhappy.  John Noble was so brilliant in episode 3 as a man who has clearly been traumatized by the fact that he watched his son die twice and who is unhinged as a result of not having Peter in his life to tether him to the world.

Despite such development, I gave this section a B- because such developments are repetitive and have been demonstrated in previous episodes.  I feel like I haven't really learned anything NEW about Olivia and Walter which is consistent with my theory that these people in the Amberverse are, at their core, identical to the characters in the Blueverse and thus, further evidence that Peter is right where he belongs.  Nina has been deliciously developed, being simultaneously at the center of the plot, yet still in the background.  I really, really look forward to learning more about her and seeing more of her.  I also gave this section a poor score because the other secondary characters haven't really been developed such as Astrid and Broyles.  With the elimination of one of the main characters (Peter), you would think that the show would have more screentime to give to Astrid and Broyles and hence, more development, but instead the extra screen time is given to Lincoln Lee which is unfortunate and, I feel, a mistake.

Perhaps most importantly, Peter hasn't been developed very well since he's gotten back, but then again, he never really has been, has he?  I still have a million questions about his situation, how he feels about it, where he was exactly at the beginning of the season, what happened to his time jumps, etc...  We got a little bit more emotion and insight from him in episode 6 and then the show abruptly took the spotlight off of him during episode 7 which was a mistake.  This could be due to the needs of the plotline which demands that his story be drawn out throughout the season and hence the reason why we are getting information about him slowly.  Regardless, the meager amount of development regarding Peter and his situation is the biggest disappointment so far this season. 

3. Cases of the Week A-

The cases of the week were perhaps the most wonderful part of the first batch of season 4 episodes.  I loved how they all tied back to the characters in the show, illuminating their plight in new and interesting ways.  In episode 2, we had an amazing guest star that portrayed a serial killer that stole happy memories as a way to deal with his own pain and a professor that studied the psychology of serial killers.  The professor was saved from the former's fate through the kindness of a woman named Majorie who helped him find the light in the darkness and moments of peace that he could hold on to whenever he had his urges to kill.  Although, his memories of Majorie were ultimately removed, he still remembered what she taught him about kindness and finding the light.  Marjorie was to the professor what Peter was to Walter and Olivia.  In episode 3, we had a story about a boy who was all alone and whose only friend was a fungus that, sensing the boys loneliness, reached out to him.  Walter's attachment to the boy mirrored his own longing for his Peter and a longing to have an emotional connection to someone and to not be so alone in the world.  In episode 4, the case of the week explored the damaging effects that experimentation in early life can have on an adult- you are not special (as the experimenters promised), but you are not normal either (thanks to the drug).  It provided wonderful development for Olivia who has to live her life, constantly having her past following her.  Peter's absence has compounded this feeling, reducing the Olivia in this timeline to someone who is just the empty shell of the Olivia that we have come to know.

Episode 6 provided the most powerful case of the week yet in the form of a husband who is desperately trying to hold on to the wife that he still loves, refusing to live in the present and leave her behind in the past where she belongs.  Raymond and Kate's situation shadowed almost exactly Peter and Olivia's current situation.  In episode 7, we meet a man named Eugene whose only desire was to be seen by the person that he loves.  This echoes Peter and Olivia's situation since, throughout the entire episode, Olivia did not once mention Peter and he, seemingly, was the farthest thing from her thoughts.  Does she truly see him like Lincoln does?  After returning from non-existence, does Peter truly exist when the people who he lives for (Walter and Olivia) do not remember or acknowledge him?  Will Peter and Olivia's situation end the same way as Eugene's story did where the woman that he loved who was seemingly oblivious to his existence was actually thinking about him all this time?  Powerful and ground-breaking stuff.

4. Exploring the Mythology of the Show B+

Some of the themes that were touched on during the initial seven episodes:

a) The concept of having a home.  This especially applies to Peter who finds himself, again, in a brave new world.

b) The impact the one person can have on your life.  This applies to Peter also who has had a profound impact on Walter and Olivia such that even when he is gone, they still remember him on some level and experience the painful feeling that his absence causes. 

c) The past coming back to haunt you.  For Peter, it involves having to re-establish a home again and adjusting to a new world again.  It also involves him returning to his nomadic life which represented a time in his life where he truly didn't have a home and wandered from place to place.  For Walter, it involves his son coming back and in the process, putting buckets of salt on old and painful wounds.  For Olivia, it involves the re-initiation of the Cortexiphan experiments with her and bringing to sharp focus the trauma that she endured as a child. 

d) What it means to exist.  Although Peter is back in a physical sense, he still doesn't quite exist in an emotional sense.  This is because, as Eugene said so eloquently, existing goes beyond simply being there; it involves been acknowledged, recognized and validated by those that you love.  Without these things, we might as well be invisible.

e) How far will we go for love?  What does it mean to love someone?  This relates specifically to Olivia and Peter's relationship and what this new situation will mean for their love affair.  How far will Peter go to return to her?  For her, will he risk undoing the original sacrifice that he made in the first place for her?  Like Raymond, will he obsessively pursue a way to return to her (and Walter), even if it costs lives in the process?  Or will he redefine what it means to love someone?  Will his heart recognize that his Olivia was with him this whole time, in the form of the Olivia in this timeline?  Even though she is not quite what she was before, will he learn to "rediscover" her and love her in new ways?

f) We are all interconnected.  Although we know with absolute certainty that Walter and Olivia depend heavily on Peter and need him in their lives, we haven't got the same acknowledgement explicitly from Peter.  Having been independent for much of his life, perhaps Peter doesn't yet fully appreciate how much he depends on the both of them for love and validation.  Will that be his journey this season?  Towards that realization?

Only B and to some extent C (for Walter) have been explored in some kind of depth so far.  These are very complex themes and so I certainly don't expect the show to explore them fully within seven episodes.  Their underdevelopment is what prevented me from giving this section an A, but the fact that such wonderful themes were mentioned/introduced for further exploration prevents me from giving this section a C. 

5. Peter/Olivia Moments B-

Although we haven't had many Peter and Olivia moments this season, the moments that we have had have been very poignant, taking their relationship is new directions.  In NOVATION, we saw how Olivia reacted to Peter with confusion, fear, distrust, and disgust.  Her feeling of fear was especially relevant considering how fear and love often go hand in hand- we often don't fear something unless it arouses strong emotions in us and is important to us in some way.  In episode 6, we see several different sides to their relationship.  In the beginning dream sequence, we see them as husband and wife; they are playful, warm and loving.  In the middle of the episode, we see them as partners and from Olivia's perspective, reluctant ones.  By the end of the episode, an understanding has passed between the two of them that neither of them are what the other is looking for.  Hence, they go their separate ways as shown by the fact that in the next episode, their interests are some other place entirely and their interactions are minimized to a chance meeting when they pass each other in the hallway. 

6. Introduction of Lincoln Lee  C+

Although I appreciate what Lincoln Lee has brought to the show (he represents the new viewer who is looking at all these strange occurrences for the first time), I continue to be frustrated by how much screen time he is taking away from the other main cast members (Astrid, Broyles and Nina) who are long overdue for their time in the spotlight.   In contrast to the Redverse Lincoln who is a very interesting character, this Lincoln is very, very bland in comparison and, in my opinion, doesn't hold up on his own as well as Peter does.  I have yet to sympathize with the character and he has yet to add anything substantial to the show.  Although his friendship with Peter certainly moves him forward in my eyes, his interest in Olivia pushes him back a few spaces.  He functions as a way in which Peter's distance from the team can be sustained plot-wise.  He is messing up the old dynamic between Walter, Olivia and Peter, a dynamic that the viewers want so desperately to return to.  I think he is a character that is better off served in moderation (aka better off shown in one universe) since I worry that as Peter finds himself re-integrating into this new team dynamic (if my theory is correct), Lincoln might end up being a superfluous addition to the team and there will end up being too many cooks in the kitchen which might impair the quality of the show.  Of course, none of this frustration is aimed at the wonderful actor Seth Gabel who, although playing a frustrating character, showcases very strong acting skills in this role. 


7. Generating Excitement for the Rest of Season 4 C+

See above.  This has much to do with the fact that I know so little about the direction in which the rest of the season will go.  Getting so few answers over the course of seven episodes is a little disappointing and frustrating. 

8. Favorite Episode

Episode 4.06- AND THOSE WE'VE LEFT BEHIND.  You can read my thoughts on this episode HERE, HERE and HERE

9. Least Favorite Episode 

Episode 4.07- WALLFLOWER.  You can read my thoughts on this episode HERE, HERE and HERE

10. Favorite Moment

The dream between Peter and Olivia at the beginning of Episode 6.  It provided a sweet moment for those of us who were starving for moments between the pair.  But it wasn't just a great moment for fans of the ship.  It also provided some great character development (Peter subconsciously admitting that he's a problem) and fantastically set the stage for the rest of the episode, making Peter's conclusions at the end of the episode (that he doesn't belong in this timeline) very logical and not at all random.  

Tuesday, December 13, 2011

Comment from another Reader

I really would like this blog to be a "community" for Peter and Olivia fans.  Honestly, I think that it would be really boring if I wrote all the posts and if you read only my opinion on this blog.  Thus, whenever possible, I will try to devote posts to the comments that are made on this blog so that you can read other people's perspectives on things and read what I have to say regarding such perspectives.  Today, I received the following fantastic comment in response to my post titled "A little rant."

"I watched the video, where Josh said that back in the day. What can I say? They missed the chance to make the show truly great. They had this character with so much potential, the center of the show and they kept dropping the ball for no reason at all. The show has never felt complete, because they have been too lazy or too unwilling to commit to tell a story about all the main characters, and don't get me wrong, I also think Olivia is rather half-baked, but she gets more focus and therefore she's somewhat more developed. Only Walter feels more complete, maybe because his story is also complete."

I agree completely with you in that they have missed quite a lot of opportunities to allow Peter to shine as a character in his own right.  Fringe does have a lot of plot holes, but so do most television shows that are on the air right now.  There are always things that shows pursue, but end up dropping a few episodes later for various reasons.  I actually DO feel like Fringe has showed a great deal of commitment in telling great stories with our main characters.  I honestly love the 1985 storylines in PETER and SUBJECT 13 since I feel like the stories are strong and true and provide such a strong foundation for the present-day stories in Fringe (ALERT: I'll be posting a post later about my theories regarding the glaring plot inconsistency in SUBJECT 13).  Walter's story arch was beautifully started in Season 2 and was partially completed just as well at the end of season 3 (where he reached the point where he was willing to give up Peter).  He still has some way to go before his story is complete since I feel like he needs to grow up a bit more such that he's in a place where he can be more of a father to Peter.  Olivia's story line was pretty awesome in Season 3 and Anna Torv proved what an amazing actress she is.  In relation to the major story in season 3 (the machine and it's potential to destroy worlds), I feel like Alt-Olivia benefited much more from the switchero since it made her see that both worlds are equally worthy for survival.  For our Olivia, she became much more aware of her insecurities and she was able to overcome them which enabled her to have a meaningful (short) relationship with Peter.  Regarding her journey, she needs to overcome her feelings about her childhood and she needs to realize that the trials don't define who she is as an adult.  Her issues regarding her father need to be resolved or addressed and her hesitancy towards having children needs to be addressed as well.  If Season 2 was Walter's season and season 3 was Olivia's season, then I think that season 4 is Peter's.  If this is the show's last season (and I hope that it isn't), then it would make sense to end the show with an exploration of the event that started Walter's investigation into Fringe science in the first place- Peter and his abduction.  For Peter, his journey is all about finding his home, resolving his father-issues, and reconciling the tension between him and his biological parents.  In a future post, I'll be talking about what my hopes are for each character in season 4.

"The part that gets me is that they lied and deceived and misdirected the fans all this time. They never planned to focus this season on Peter at all. They simply said that to calm down the fans, that demanded more focus on him. So they spent the time making him the focus of interviews and promos, they said this would be Peter's season, only to ram Lincoln and Olivia down our throats in the end. They are the focus this season, not Peter, he still doesn't matter to them at all.  The result is that this malcontent and betrayed viewer will finish this season and that's it. I don't care if it's renewed and I don't care about their future shows, these producers have been blacklisted."

As distressed as I am about how the first couple of episodes this season have been handled with regards to Peter, I think that it is too early to claim that the show is not making Peter the focus this season.  Although Peter was barely in the first few episodes of this season, these episodes were all about the importance of the connections that Olivia and Walter had made with Peter and how their lives are so different for not having those connections.  Sometimes the initial first couple of episodes will be lackluster because the focus is not necessarily on wowing the audience, but instead the focus is to build momentum so that the audience can be wow'ed later in the season by a story line for which the foundations were laid at the beginning of the season.  I hope that the episodes that are shown next year will help to illuminate important things that were hinted at in the first couple of episodes- maybe they are more important than we give them credit for.  After the "Hiatus from Hell" is over, we will be getting 7 episodes of Fringe in a row and only after episode 14 airs, will the show be going on another hiatus.  I am planning on holding my judgment on the whole Peter story line until episode 14.  I honestly think that there's a reason why Lincoln and Olivia's relationship took center stage in Wallflower, a reason that I think won't be made clear until episode 8 airs.  I think that the writers showed the relationship blossoming as a way of distracting the viewers from the fact that this Olivia is our Olivia.  If viewers see that she is developing a relationship with Lincoln, then they will be resolute in their belief that this is not our Olivia.  Again, I'm going to hold my judgment until I've seen more episodes. 

Thanks again to Anonymous for their comment.  Keep the comments coming!

A Little Rant

I just wanted to bring to your attention an old quote made by Joshua Jackson during the interview rounds at the beginning of Season 4. 

“To a certain extent, Peter is the MacGuffin of the show,” Jackson told The News. “So we have this ensemble cast and he’s the guy who lots of things are about, but who doesn’t get to do a lot of things. That’s who he is, that’s what the character is, so I can get frustrated all I like, but it’s not going to change.” - Joshua Jackson talking about his character Peter

SOURCE

It’s sad, but very true. So many issues revolve around Peter- so much of what goes on in this show revolves around his kidnapping and the fact that he is from another universe. Everything revolves around him and the main characters rely on him a great deal, yet I still know so little about him. Peter is the ultimate plot device, serving as a way to push other characters forward which is unfortunate. I was so excited when I heard that he would be the focus for season 4 since I was literally, like, “finally, we get to learn more about Peter.” But, so far, he’s been in this season so little- he was in the first 7 episodes of season 3 more. I just don’t understand, why would they treat a character like this? And every relevant plotline that he’s had, has been dropped abruptly. He had that plotline in season 1 with Tessa, who we never heard from again after 1 episode. In season 2, we learned that he is a child of two worlds, kidnapped from his home universe. However, we spent more time learning about how this secret impacted Walter and Olivia, then how it impacted Peter. And when we came to the season 2 finale, Peter’s time in his home universe and his time with Walternate were both horribly rushed. We ended up spending 7 episodes in season 3 with Olivia in the alternate universe when it should have been Peter since that is his HOME and is more relevant to him. He had the whole plotline with the shapeshifters in season 3 that was started in RECIPROCITY, which was dropped and never heard from again (only briefly mentioned in season 4).

Please don’t misunderstand me. I have had a wonderful time getting to know Walter and Olivia and Anna Torv and John Noble are EXTREMELY talented actors who both wholeheartedly deserve Emmys like NOW. I just wish that the show would explore Peter to the same extent that they’ve been exploring Walter and Olivia. Peter is a a character in his own right and deserves to be treated so- he is not a plot device or a character that is used to make other characters look good while he looks bad (*cough* season 3 story line *cough*). Even in Novation, we focused more on how Walter and Olivia felt about Peter’s presence than about how Peter felt about where he is. “And Those We’ve Left Behind” was so refreshing since I felt like I really got to know Peter in a way that I never have before. I am extremely loyal to Fringe and will never stop watching it, but I hope that the rest of the season is better. The character and the actor deserves better.

Sorry about this little rant. Thanks for reading! :)

Sunday, December 11, 2011

Peter and Olivia- 1.01 (Pilot)

During this Hiatus from Hell, I'll be posting my favorite Peter/Olivia scenes throughout the series.  What better way to start than to start from the beginning.  I love the scene below where they met for the first time.  The banter between the two of them is fantastic and it really makes you realize how far Peter as a character has come- in the pilot, he wants absolutely nothing to do with Walter and Olivia and this season, he is trying desperately to get back to the both of them.  Note: If you click the title below, it will take you to the video of this scene on Youtube. 




Bagdad, Iraq - Meeting Peter
(helicopter flyover of the city while voiceover from the Federal Building continues)

BROYLES: (in voiceover) So this guy's Walter Bishop's son?

OLIVIA: (in voiceover) His name is Peter Bishop. He's a high-school drop-out, IQ at 190, just 50 points north of genius. Misfit, nomad. Hasn't kept a job longer than two months. He's been a wild land fireman, cargo pilot and briefly a college chemistry professor. He falsified a degree from MIT. He even managed to get a few papers published before he was found out. Sounds like a massive pain in the ass.

(taxicab ride to a well-appointed hotel. meeting with two local businessmen in a private room)

PETER: My resume is hardly traditional, but around these parts traditional increasingly means irrelevant. Hundred billion dollar sunk in infrastructure and you can barely keep the lights on. You need someone to oversee construction on 600 miles of pipeline to carry crude between your fields in Kirkuk and the port of Ceyhan. A job well out of the 'Green Zone', I might add. Well, I'm still alive to do so. You need someone who has a handle on the laws of hydro-dynamic resistance, the heat exchange and oil mixture flows. You'll also need someone who can work with mixed integer programs cause you're gonna have to resize the pipes as you start working across uneven terrain. That is, if you want to keep down the construction costs. (Peter pauses when the two men begin to converse separately in their native language) Truth is, I need this job as much as you need me to do it. (when the businessmen continue their separate chat) ...I also speak Farsi. And 600,000 all-in... sounds fair.

(in the lobby of the hotel)

OLIVIA: Peter Bishop? Olivia Dunham. I'm with the FBI.

PETER: OK.

OLIVIA: You've heard of flight 627?

PETER: The Hamburg flight, of course.

OLIVIA: You may be able to help us with that.

PETER: No, I think you've got the wrong guy.

OLIVIA: Your father is Walter Bishop.

PETER: The last time somebody asked me that it was an accusation.

OLIVIA: Well, he's the man we're looking to speak with, but due to his current status, you're the only one who can provide us access.

PETER: And what possible help could that man be to you? And what is it exactly that you're expecting me to do? Hop on a plane with you back to Massachusetts? I just got here honey.

OLIVIA: I can have you on a return flight here in four days, but first...

PETER: Let me save you the time. I'd rather stay here in Iraq. That's how much I want to see my father.

OLIVIA: I'm going to beg you as one human being to another. Your father may be able to save someone who is dying. Someone I care about very much.

PETER: Sweetheart, we all care about someone who is dying. I can't help you, I'm sorry.

OLIVIA: I know why you're here. I have your file.

PETER: What file?

OLIVIA: The one the FBI would say doesn't exist. And it has everything. Where you've been, what you're running from. And what you need while you're here. So, either you come with me, or I let certain people know your whereabouts.

PETER: When do we leave?

Transcript Courtesy of FringePedia

Wednesday, December 7, 2011

Ranking of Season 4 Episodes

I thought that I would provide you with my ranking for the season 4 episodes that we've seen so far.  I would love to hear what your rankings are!

1. And Those We've Left Behind

The best episodes of Fringe are those that focus on the over-arching story and where the case of the week strongly supplements the main story line.  The best episodes also take us into completely new territory and although they may allude to past themes, they allow us to see such themes in new ways.  Good episodes also provide us with many answers, but also so many questions that lead to lots of fun theorizing.  Although not a perfect episode, episode 6 of season 4 stands out above the rest for the reasons mentioned above.  It is truly the first episode in quite a long time where we see things from Peter's perspective.  Although, Peter seemed calm and collective during NOVATION, in AND THOSE WE'VE LEFT BEHIND we see him a little bit more emotionally raw as he deals with Walter's resistance towards him, with Olivia's apathy towards him and with the weird time jumps that only he seems to experience.  We saw moments where the old Olivia and Walter peaked through due to something that Peter said or did.  Raymond's and Kate's situation echoed beautifully Peter's current plight and perhaps more profoundly, re-emphasized how a machine can unintentionally destroy lives, but how it may be the key to going back to those that we've left behind.  This gives Peter the idea to use the machine to get back to him own timeline.  Unfortunately, Raymond and Kate's tragic story also provides us with some idea of where Peter's story may be heading.  This episode was wonderfully acted and beautifully written. 

2. Novation

This was a fantastic episode as well since it was the first time in season 4 where I felt like the old Fringe was back and I really felt like season 4 started with this episode.  This episode reminded me of the magic of the Walter-Peter-Olivia dynamic and how central it is to the show and to defining what Fringe is all about.  The wonderful scenes between Walter and Peter were the stand out part of this episode.  It was just really wonderful to have Peter back and to have someone who reminded us of the last 3 years!  The reason why this episode wasn't as good as episode 6 was because of the shapeshifter plot and how it took up so much screen time when all I really wanted was to spend more time with Peter, learning about where he's been and how he feels about everything that is going on.  But, I understand that they needed to build on the shapeshifter plotline in order to prepare us for what is coming. 

3. One Night in October

The guest star for this episode was phenomenal, the case of the week was heart-breaking, and the writing was absolutely amazing.  The message of this episode was a beautiful one- that even when those we love are gone, their impact on our lives will always be remembered.  My favorite part of the episode was when the professor was explaining his happiest memory to the serial killer and they showed us images of his time with Majorie.  The images were bathed in sunlight and combined with the wonderful voice over, it was truly a remarkable scene.  Memorable quote: "I could never understand how someone so good could love something so dark."  It reminded me of Peter and Olivia's relationship and how a damaged Olivia doesn't believe how Peter could possibly love her.  Also, Anna Torv performed brilliantly in this episode, wonderfully portraying both AltOlivia and Olivia.  This episode was a stand-out among the lackluster initial 4 episodes of the season. 

4. Alone in the World

Although the plotline was a bit contrived and dragged a bit, this was a truly wonderful episode and featured some fantastic and emotional acting from John Noble.  I absolutely loved the parallels between the little boy and Peter.  Gus was to the little boy what Peter was to Walter- something to anchor him to the world and to make him feel like he belonged.  

5. Neither Here Nor There

The season 4 premiere was good in the sense that it provided us with the foundations for understanding the world without Peter and the characters in that world, but it was so mellow compared to the excitement of the season 3 finale.  The pacing of the episode was very slow.  I think that what would have made the episode more interesting (and the subsequent 3 episodes that came after it) was to maybe have the majority of the episode focused on the main story line in the Amberverse, but to devote some portion of the episode to following Peter in the aftermath of the season 3 finale (like what the comic books did).  This way, the episodes could have been more balanced and by the time that we saw Peter in episode 4, we would have known where he was coming from.  The introduction of Lincoln Lee was interesting and I appreciated having a new pair of eyes to look upon all the craziness that is the Fringe division.  However, this episode (and the subsequent episodes) did really nothing to arouse my sympathy or interest in the character. 

6. Subject 9

I really don't appreciate episodes that venture off the course of what the over-arching story of the season is.  The development of the Olivia-Walter relationship was a huge redeeming aspect of this episode and John Noble and Anna Torv were outstanding in this episode.  The case of the week wasn't too interesting and didn't really function as a case.  He served to emphasize the tragedy of being experimented on which ties to Olivia's past.  Although illuminating, this didn't really add anything to what I already know about Olivia since her past of being experimented on has been touched on over and over...and over again.  Considering that Peter was apparently not (intentionally) reaching out to Olivia and Walter, so much about this episode confuses me.  It really emphasizes the question that Peter asked in Novation- How and why is he here in this new timeline?

7. Wallflower

Just like it's title, this episode will probably not be remembered by anyone, especially since it is sandwiched between the AND THOSE WE'VE LEFT BEHIND (a fantastic episode) and BACK TO WHERE YOU'VE NEVER BEEN (which, rumor has it, contains the material and quality that you only see in season finales).  And quite frankly, I would rather pretend like the first 55 minutes of the episode never existed.  Although still poignant for the character and her development, I can't help but get frustrated by the fact that Olivia's tragic past with experimentation is highlighted AGAIN.  Despite such frustration, Anna Torv is spectacular in this episode (as usual).  Like I said in my review for this episode, I really believe that the Lincoln-Olivia romance might be good for both characters.  Both characters are very compatible with each other.  I just don't agree with making this relationship the center of the episode while pushing Peter out of the picture.  I don't understand what prompted the show to make this decision.  At this point in the season, stand alone episodes that temporary venture off of the main plot are not acceptable and the show cannot really afford to show episodes like Wallflower that loses all the steam that was built up from AND THOSE WE'VE LEFT BEHIND.  It's episodes like Wallflower that make me wonder whether the show realizes that it is fighting for its life this season.  Hopefully, once we see episode 8, the decisions made for WALLFLOWER will make sense such as why Olivia is seeking comfort in Lincoln instead of Peter (maybe their distance needs to be maintained in order for the plot of episode 8 to be effective and belivable) and why her feelings about her place in this world is brought to the forefront.

Tuesday, December 6, 2011

Fantastic Comment!

I just received a fantastic comment from a reader and I really wanted to not just share it with all of you, but also give you my thoughts on several great things that the comment mentioned.  The comment was made in response to the following post: Thoughts on Episode 4.08 (Back to Where You've Never Been).

"This is such a well-thought out, compartmentalized theory! I love it.”

First of all, thank you so much for leaving a comment! I always love hearing other people’s thoughts about certain aspects of Fringe- that’s part of the fun of being apart of such an intelligent and devoted fan base. Your comment was so wonderfully written.

“And, yes, I concur about the bit in which you spoke about Peter being rescued. I mean, I love the prospect of Olivia coming after Peter and saving him but, seriously, he was essentially a criminal before they met and I'm sure he could handle himself then. And he can do the same thing now.”

I absolutely agree! It’s very tempting to think that Olivia will rescue Peter, but a part of me wants Peter to rescue himself since he’s more than capable and you’re right, he was a criminal (and I use that term loosely) prior to joining the Fringe team. He’s very smart and intelligent and I think that the writers would be doing the character a huge favor by showing him saving himself. Peter’s just so resilient and I wish the writers would show that more. When I look at Peter and Olivia, I see two people who are so resilient and strong and who have such a strong desire to survive whatever is thrown their way. By emphasizing this aspect of Peter, the relationship between Peter and Olivia will be much more believable (more so than it already is).

“But... what if he realizes that her coming after him is the ONLY way to get her memories to come back?”

That’s such an interesting theory! But, how would he figure that out? He seems so dead set against this Olivia that I wonder how he would muster up the faith to believe that she will cross over and rescue him, especially when he is on one side (Over there) and she is on the other (Over Here). This would be a really good idea and it would provide a very interesting twist. I hope that something like this happens. If it does, it would probably occur over two episodes, with episode 8 ending on a cliffhanger when he realizes what he has to do to trigger Olivia’s memories of him. I would really like to hear any other thoughts that you have about this theory!

“Also, I am a firm believer that this Olivia/Universe are his. It's just his Universe is without... well, him. The Olivia lying down in the promo got me nervous, but JJ Abrams is a massive troll, and your "lying down and dreaming/thinking" scheme is both plausible and realistic.”

The more episodes I see, the more that I believe, like you, that the Amberverse Olivia is his Olivia, she’s just different since she’s never had Peter in her life. Why else would they be developing these characters so much? I firmly believe that the timelines are going to merge. SPOILER: The “distance” between Peter and the other characters is the major source of conflict in the season so far and I think that they’ll be dragging this out a bit since John Noble said in an interview that Walter will begin to warm up to Peter by the end of the season. This could change depending on the direction that the plot goes and whether or not the show is renewed for another season. Thus, the timelines will merge, but somehow the “distance” conflict will still remain. It will be exciting to see all this unfold. Also, when the timelines merge, there will be an additional factor to take into consideration regarding the relationship between Olivia and Peter, a conflict that is centered around the fact that Olivia remembers a life without Peter AND she also remembers a life with him. I think that this will make the relationship a lot more interesting than it is now which is not saying much since ANYTHING would be a lot more interesting than how things are now between the two of them (Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that episode 4.07 holds the record for the shortest among of time that Peter and Olivia interacted together in a single episode that they both were present in.  Hell, they even interacted more when they were in two different universes!). 

JJ Abrams IS a massive troll and I fully believe that anything is possible!

“I JUST WANT THEM TOGETHER, DEAR LORD!”

I could not have said it better myself! I pray for this every night! :)

“I don't know if Walternate not knowing Peter's alive with benefit or hurt. I mean, did the hope of finding his son make him do the things he did before, or was he acting on his anger that he had been taken and he had no closure? Who knows but those troll-y writers. VIVA LA FRINGE~!”

Whether Peter’s presence will benefit or hurt Walternate- That’s really THE question, isn’t it? We know that him and Peter will meet up in episode 8 and I honestly don’t know what his reaction will be. Walter and Walternate tend to be two sides of the same coin and so it would be an interesting twist if Walternate was warm towards Peter upon realizing that he is alive (which would contrast to Walter’s coldness towards Peter). I think that in the old timeline, the hurt that he felt is what motivated Walternate’s actions which is why he’s made a lot of bad choices. If he was motivated by hope in being reunited with Peter, he would have come across as a more positive character and would have treated Peter better when Peter meet with him initially in the season 2 finale (a meeting that was unfortunately very short). A lot of what Walternate has done, I feel, is motivated by anger, but he’s such a complicated character that we may never know what really motivates him.

Long Live FRINGE!  :)

I would love to hear everyone else's thoughts on the above topics/points!  Thanks again to the person who commented!

Saturday, December 3, 2011

Upcoming Blog Posts


So, what will BaconandToast be doing during the FRINGE Winter Hiatus?

- I’ll be re-watching the season 4 episodes and episodes from other seasons and posting recaps/reviews that are Peter/Olivia focused. I really want to polish my reviews on the first couple of episodes in season 4 since they’re pretty much crap. :)

- I’ll be posting comments and videos regarding my top 5 Peter/Olivia moments.

- I’ll be reading the comics and so hopefully I’ll have some comments to make on the Peter/Olivia goodies that I hear are incorporated into the stories.

- Coming Soon!  I grade (and provide my thoughts) on several aspects regarding the general direction of the first third of Season 4. 

Please always feel free to leave a comment on any of my posts- I would love to hear your thoughts regardless of whether or not you agree with me! All opinions welcomed and I respond to every comment!

Friday, December 2, 2011

Thoughts for Episode 4.08 (Back to Where You've Never Been)

HD Promo for Episode 4.08 (Back to Where You've Never Been)

Due to the World Series, Fringe Episode 04.08 (Back to Where You've Never Been) was delayed until January 13th, 2012.  It's times like these where I wish we were in the year 2007 where the World Series was won with 3 games (I know this because, in an ironic twist, this was the headline for the newspaper that Peter picked up when he was in Raymond and Kate's home in episode 04.06 when the year was 2007).  But, I think this actually ends up being a good thing.  We have been promised that episode 8 will be mind blowing and I would probably go insane waiting 1.5 months after seeing such an episode.  Wallflower was dismal and underwhelming and it certainly didn't leave me aching for more.  Thus, having Wallflower as a winter finale was definitely a lot better for my sanity and when we finally do see episode 8, we'll just have to wait another week to see what happens next.

I have some pretty clear ideas regarding what I think will happen in Episode 8 and it will be interesting to revisit this post after the episode has aired to see if my predictions were true.  WARNING- SPOILERS AHEAD!  YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

1. David Robert Jones will be revealed to be behind the Shapeshifters that we saw in "Neither Here Nor There" and "Novation."

I think that the idea of Walternate being behind the Shapeshifters is a red herring.  In other words, Walternate is probably a distraction so that viewers don't realize who is really behind the Shapeshifters which I think is David Robert Jones.  In one of her interviews during the really early part of Season 4, the actress who plays Astrid mentioned that Peter may not be the biggest threat to both universes; there may be another, much larger threat that will require both universes to work together.  I think that David Robert Jones and his shapeshifters are this much larger threat.  The fact that he's alive makes perfect sense since it was Peter who shot him as he tried to cross over (was it season 1 or 2?).  What does David Robert Jones hope to do with the shapeshifters?  If this is indeed "Peter's Season," I'm looking to see how all the plot lines are connected to his story, including the one with David Robert Jones.  I think that Jones' presence will really force the team to work closely with Peter which will help Peter to re-integrate himself into this new timeline where (I think) he belongs.

2. Peter and Walternate will lay the foundations towards reconciliation.

There was so much tension building up towards the season 2 finale where Peter and his biological father, Walternate, met up for the first time since he was kidnapped.  In this timeline, circumstances have changed though quite a bit.  In the old timeline, Walternate knew that Peter was alive and was on the other side since Olivia, unknowingly, showed him a picture of herself and Peter that she drew after she had met him (Subject 13).  In the new timeline, Walternate believes that his son is dead.  It will be interesting to see how much more different he is in this new timeline since he never had the hope of Peter's survival to lean on.  I was disappointed by the season 2 finale and how that reconciliation was left hanging and how Peter and Walternate had only one scene together that didn't really reveal much about their current relationship with each other.  If I'm correct and both worlds will have to start working together, then some sort of understanding needs to pass between Peter and Walternate that will enable them to work together. 

2. Peter will have to go to the other side in order to either a) Acquire parts for the machine that he is planning to rebuild or b) Gain their cooperation in helping him to return to his timeline

In the promo, Peter told Olivia that he has to cross over to the other side which begs the question of why.  In the promo, we also see that Peter and Lincoln are crossing over the old fashion way or the way that Walter and Peter crossed over when Peter was young.   What happened to the bridge that we saw in the season 4 premiere?  Why aren't they using it?  Did something happen to the bridge or the machine making it so that Peter and Lincoln can't use it?  If so, does Peter need to cross over to acquire parts to reassemble the machine?  This is one aspect of the plot that completely confuses me- what is it that Peter needs from over there?  Whatever it is, I think he'll be in danger somehow and will need help.  If the people from over here don't sympathize with him, the people from over there most certainly won't and so he'll need help from over here when he gets in trouble.  Which brings me to my next point...

3. Peter will get trapped on the other side somehow and Olivia will rescue him which will trigger her memories of him.

How he'll get trapped, I don't know.  One possibility is that the other observers will find him and try to erase him which might cause September to recruit Olivia for help (which is the scene that we saw in the promo).  It's curious why Olivia doesn't cross over with Lincoln and Peter.  That's why I think that Peter will find himself in trouble- there must be a reason why Olivia is left behind.  The fact that she doesn't volunteer to go with him (and Lincoln does) is consistent with the apathetic feelings she's been having towards Peter so far this season.  It's an interesting contrast to the season 2 finale where she was more than ready to sacrifice her life to cross over and save Peter.

I think what will happen is that September will recruit Olivia's help in crossing over to save Peter.  Olivia will ask him how she is suppose to cross over and help him and September will tell her about her Cortexiphan and how Nina is treating her with it and that it takes a unique combination of fear and love in order to activate the drug and allow her to cross over.  He will tell her that it will help if she thinks about Peter since he is someone that she loves and is afraid of.  I think that the only moment where she has ever felt like that was in her dreams and so she'll lie down (see the scene below), trying to bring the dream to mind in an attempt to gather to necessary emotions to cross over.  I think that this will happen because I remember how in "Novation" Peter made it very clear that Olivia seemed like she was afraid of him.  It must mean something and the questions regarding the content of her dreams haven't really been answered.  I don't exactly know how she is going to save him or what she needs to save him from, but I think that this will be the key to unlocking her memories of him.


Someone brought to my attention that it might be damaging to the character of Peter to have him get himself in trouble and to be in need of rescuing.  I really loved how Olivia saved herself in Season 3 since, sometimes, at the end of the day, the only person who can truly help you and who you can 100% count on is yourself.  I know that Peter will find himself in trouble since trouble seems to always follow him everywhere, but I hope that he finds his own way out of it.  I like the above scenario since it involves Olivia and Peter doubting their perceptions about each other and also gives us a hint about Olivia's dreams, which are two things that I really want out of this episode.  If these things can be done in a way that still maintains the integrity of Peter as a character, then that would be great. 

4. Peter will realize that this new timeline is his home and will realize that this Olivia is his Olivia.  Cue the tears.

One of things that makes Peter so convinced that this isn't his timeline is the fact that no one that he loves remembers him or acknowledges him.  Once Olivia tells him that she does remember him, I think that will be sign that he needs to signify that he is in the right place and time.  I wonder where the relationship will go after that point, if we get to that point at the end of the episode.  Maybe she remembers him, but she refuses to believe that the memories hold any importance to her.  We need a way for Peter to be persistent in pursuing a relationship with THIS Olivia (that he realizes is his Olivia) and for Olivia to be resistant towards pursuing a relationship with him (producing the conflict). 

I honestly don't know where this season is going which is, in part, due to the fact that so little has happened so far this season.  Hopefully, after episode 8, I can talk more about what I hope happens throughout the rest of the season.

In the meantime, I would really like your thoughts on what you think will happen to Peter and Olivia in Episode 8!